Hiking in Finland

Climbing, bikepacking, skiing & packrafting in the north

Interview: Ron Bell of Mountain Laurel Designs

If you get into ultralight backpacking, at one point or another you will come across one company name, usually abbreviated. MLD. Mountain Laurel Designs. Its at the moment probably the company with the most demand on its products, leading to waiting times of up to four weeks, sometimes even more. Using MLD gear seems to be like wearing a Levis 501 back as I was a teenager, you're "In". And for good reason: High quality materials and superb craftsmanship, paired with a owner who knows UL like the back of his hand, coming up with fresh designs and innovations equals a winner. Ron Bell is the Design Minister at MLD, and he took out some time of running the business and answered my questions (probably that means some order will come a day later ;).

Ron, since when are you backpacking, and how did you start? How often are you out backpacking nowadays?

I started sleeping in the woods as a little cub scout. I’ve probably slept outdoors about 900 nights since then - once for a whole year in a tent in Yosemite. I get out into the woods about 100 days a year now - mostly on day hikes, trails runs, and for mountain biking or paddling and most of my overnight backpacking trips are with my daughters - we love weekend overnights on the Appalachian Trail.

Ron out on the trail.

When and why did you start to go lightweight/ UL?

I was always interested in lightweight gear and started MLD as a hobby in about 2000. By 2005 I was making more and more products and in in 2006 it became my full time job. In 2007 we opened a larger shop, trained craftspeople, invested in a lot of equipment for UL materials and worked with fabric suppliers to help develop UL fabrics for our products. We’ve still fairly small and still have fun in the shop building the gear.

Cutting fabric to size.

Mountain Laurel Designs is currently by many considered the leading SUL cottage manufacturer, due to the highest level of craftsmanship and very innovative products like the DuoMid, Grace tarps and the Soul Bivy, among others. Can you tell a bit about how you decided to start Mountain Laurel Designs, and how it developed since you started?

A lot of gear started with ideas and great feedback from customers and various outdoor athletes that use MLD gear - we are blessed to have awesome customers. Our 2010 SuperPack series was inspired by custom orders over the years from hikers and climbers who needed sub 1lb UL super tough packs for Alaska bush whacking and for Everest climbs (a 10oz pack summitted Everest!).

We are unique in the cottage UL gear community. We design and build all our gear in our shop and offer gear in all the major gear categories with lots of options in each category. For example - our Superlight Bivy is offered in three colors, two sizes, two zippers sides and two mesh hood options - That’s over 20 different combinations for just one product - not even counting the special orders. If you add up all the products with just the standard options we offer, we have well over 400 products! The only way we can do that is to build all the gear ourselves in our own shop. We’re owner operators - we design the gear - use and test the gear and craft the gear.

A lot of the products are ones that I wanted to use myself. I like to do a lot of outdoor sports and find diversity helps motivation and creativity - I get lot of ideas while I’m in the woods. In the last few years I’ve gotten the chance to hike, backpack, mountain and road bike, trail run, rock climb, white water kayak, XC ski and surf. Keeping up with this business is also great exercise for avoiding the dreaded Man Boobs. Just this year at 49 I entered my first multi-sport triathlon race - the kayak leg was fun! I can’t wait to find a multi-sport race using a pack raft - I’ve already stared designing specialized gear for that...

More cutting.

How works the R&D at MLD, do you have a need yourself that you try to fix, or do some of your clients inspire you for new products or ask you for solutions to their problems?

We are always looking for ways to make the best gear. We just finished testing a new 20d X 20d PU blend coated shelter fabric that weighs about 1.25oz sq/yd and is more waterproof than most Silnylon (about the same as our new Shield Silnylon). Well... It stretched too much for anything other than small tent panels and so would not work well for tarps and Mids - so that fabric is a no-go but but we gained valuable information on sourcing other fabrics next year. We have many new designs planned for 2010 - Stay Tuned!


How easy, or difficult, is it to compete versus the mass market manufacturers? Have they maybe already tried to approach you and buy the company?

It’s easy to compete with the mass market - offer unique products, continually innovate and stick to excellent personal customer service. We get approached sometimes for partnerships, etc. but I love my work and have no plans to sell - There are too many new designs and product improvements I want to make!

What kind of new innovations can we expect in the next years from Mountain Laurel Designs?

It’s important to try new things and we are always looking at new designs and materials. I worked with the DuoMid for 3 years trying it out myself in the field before we offered it as a product. The new SoloMid in Shield Silnylon, Spintex and Cuben will come out in spring and the updated Dyneema X packs.

Got to love the look of this busyness!

What is your own favorite backpack, sleeping system and shelter, and did you make it yourself?

I don’t have a One favorite. It depends on the trip but usually it’s whatever I’m prototyping at the moment. So it's a protoype sub 10oz pack and the SoloMid this week.

Do you think ultralight backpacking will become more popular and break into the mass market, or will it continue to be something for a small group of people?

More and more people will are trying to get outdoors. The last decade saw a shift towards front country sports and less in-the-woods trips but I feel that is changing back. People want to get out in the woods and gain some sense of peace with nature. They don’t always have much time so the UL approach is one way to get out farther and see more in one weekend.

Are you the cooperating "behind the scenes" with other cottage manufacturers? Are you for example in touch with Brian Frankle of ULA Equipment, Glen Van Peski from Gossamer Gear or any of the other cottage manufacturers, and talking about developments and the like?

I’m friends with some of the other small UL company owners and always look forward to seeing them at gatherings like Trail Days. But there’s not really any specific cooperation at the product or market level and that’s good for the consumer - we’re all working independently to make great gear and offer competitive choices. Occasionally we’ll talk about broad business issues that affect the UL industry as a whole like gear trends and the overall outdoor market. For example, in 2008 and 2009 I first spotted a huge problem with some the waterproof materials that I knew a few other UL companies also use in shelters and alerted others about the problem before they built lots of product with the leaky fabric. I cooperate with a few non-competing companies like thru-hiker.com, etc. on sourcing cutting edge fabrics. Overall, I think we all want each other do well because that means the UL movement is continuing to grow.

Ron, I thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.


Saturday afternoon in Tampere.

Too much to do, too less time. Time to let you know what you can expect in the next few weeks on Hiking in Finland. Tomorrow we start the week with an interview of Ron Bell, the Chief Happiness Officer of Mountain Laurel Designs. We will follow this with interviews from Ron Moak from Six Moons Designs, the European upcoming cottage manufacture Laufbursche will sit down with me and tell me how it is to start a cottage, and on the other site of the Atlantic Tim Marshall will tell us how his venture enLIGHTened equipment is doing. Jacks 'R' Better also take out some time and answer my questions, and finally I'll interview the owner of Ultralight Outdoor Gear and ask him how it is to run a UL Shop. Lots of stuff in the pipeline, as you can see.

It is getting winter in Finland, the first snow arrived and left again, and I am on the search for some UL equipment for the colder time of the year, including a new backpack. Expect a post on that front. On other gear related posts, get ready for some light and warm synthetic insulation clothing from Integral Designs. I got the Bushcooker LT 1 and LT 2 here, and am eager to go and try them out - I reckon a video should do them justice. And as I have a BushBuddy Ultra and an Inferno stove to compare it to, you can expect some mighty fires. For the cold time of the year you need long warm underwear. Woolpower makes some sweet merino long johns and longsleeves, and I will review the set I have been wearing since months now. For a sound night in the winter, a good mattress is in my opinion of utmost important, and I will show you the different mats I have for the winter. For transportation purposes you can use skis or snowshoes, I go with the latter and give my insights into them. There's even more than that in the pipeline, I just would need to find the time to get out and write.

Finally, I am busy organizing the trekking-ultraleicht.de forums winter tour aka T-U FTW 1.0 which goes down in the end of January/ beginning of February. Seven brave UL backpackers from the south will travel to Finland and go for a week long hike (ok, three nights we camp and three nights we'll spent in a cottage with sauna!) in hopefully plenty of snow and coldness.

So much for now. Check back tomorrow for Ron Bell's answers, and have a good Sunday evening!

Gear Talk: Rab Momentum Jacket & Drillium Pants

I have been wearing my Rab Momentum Jacket and Drillium Pants since quite a while now, time enough to pass some initial judgement about these two eVent rain garments.

The hood on the Momentum turns with your head without being in the way. Also note the long zips on the Drillium Pants.

The important bits: Momentum Jacket, Size S, weighs 328 g. It is made of a lightweight 3 layer eVent® fabric, has two chest pockets - big enough for maps - and a helmet compatible hood. The hood is excellent, Rab did a great job in its design, turning your head is no problem as the hood follows your movements. The wired peak keeps snow, slush and rain out of your face, and the zipper goes high, so your whole face is protected from the wind, rain and snow.

Long arms and a single exit hem drawcord, which is easy to operate with one hand.

The arms on the Momentum are long and have velcro cuffs. The long arms are very smart, as they enable you to just pull down the sleeves over your hands and also these will then stay dry. No problems with water climbing up the sleeves either. The zipper might feel like it goes a bit difficult for some, I have no problems with it. Finally, the back is a bit longer and keeps your buttocks protected.

The Drillium is a no frills rain pants made of the same lightweight eVent® 3 layer fabric as the Momentum, and weighs in at 215 g in Size S. The top has a drawcord, the legs have each an about knee high water resistant zip with storm flap behind it, and a drawcord at the end to zip it close.

Articulated knees in action =)

I wore the combo in sunshine, wind, rain, slush, snow, from temperatures ranging between 20°C till -9°C and stayed well ventilated and dry all the time. I know, there's people going around saying eVent wouldn't be any better as GoreTex, that it is clever marketing and what not, so I can only tell you my own experiences. I have owned a few Haglöfs GoreTex jackets, and they always were a disappointment, I was sweating on the inside and got wet, and the GoreTex let after sustained rain the water through, getting double wet. I don't think much about Softshells, of which I also have owned a few, they're for me just not up to the task. I prefer to layer my clothing as needed, and these two eVent garments were really excellent. I also wasn't gingerly to them, and I went bushwacking and climbing with them, and till now they show no wear and tear.

My conclusion is that this is an excellent lightweight and durable rain combo. The make is top notch, and you wouldn't expect anything else from Rab. They pack very small - small enough for me to even take them in my shoulder bag to work when I expect rain - and they're quickly deployed when needed. In the temperatures we have now its often for me enough to wear only a baselayer and these two garments over them, and stay warm while being out of the wind and snow. Personally I feel that eVent is ways ahead of GoreTex in regards to ventilation and waterproofness. My girlfriend also approves, as you can wash eVent normally - and they even recommend that you wash it often!

I had a chat with Ultralight Outdoor Gear and while they currently don't have the Momentum in stock, they're happy to order the jacket for you. They have the Drillium, which retails for £80. Of course you also could just check from the Rab website for a Stockist near you!

Happy eVent rain wear owner!